Did you see the NY Times story in the Illegal Immigration bill?

I’m sure the people they interviewed and pictured in their article are very nice sweet people, BUT their pictures come across as a little homely and redneck types. Why didn’t the NY times do a story on a normal middle class family with kids in an area that is greatly affected by illegal immigration?





Are they trying to show the Law Makers in DC that middle class America does not care or they are not affected? Are they trying to show the lawmakers that it was the Redneck type that stopped you?





Again PLEASE do not bash me for calling theses people Rednecks. I’m sure they are sweet kind people. I just think the NY Times took the worst possible representative to portray exactly who is against this bill.





I sent the NY times a picture of my big tooth smile telling them I have all my teeth and I’m against amnesty.





What do you think?





http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/10/washin...





http://www.johnandkenshow.com/

Did you see the NY Times story in the Illegal Immigration bill?
Gee, they didn't look like rednecks....They look like normal middle America....I do find it insulting that these people's opinion is somehow less because you deem them "rednecks"....If you think they will show middle America, what exactly is middle America?....Your very strange in your assessments....Stop judging people by how they look...Ever read "the millionaire next door"?....Not all middle class live in McMansions and drive BMW's....





So your saying these people look backwards? I understand what your saying, look, we all know NY Times is a biased in many ways, they are a liberal publication, perhaps they should have showed African American, or even a Hispanic, I just got annoyed that you judged these people, because you think they look like rednecks, which happen to be very good people, for the most part...
Reply:I do have family members in the mid west and they do have the “redneck look” I LOVE them with all my heart and I would rather live with these type of people than most of the USA population. Report It

Reply:. They are wonderful down to earth people and MOST (bad people in all walks of life) have great values. I would pick a “redneck” life style in a heartbeat. Report It

Reply:I really would have loved to see a Mexican America family, an African American family, a mixed family or a middle of the social ladder Caucasian family. It would have been nice if they had a mixture. I think you are right in the fact that, the NY times is a liberal paper. Report It

Reply:They want to spin the story to fit their views and how “they” see people who are against the immigration bill.





Thanks agan for your answer!!!! :) Report It

Reply:Its a BS Line they are hoping to screw up what is left of


America.
Reply:Those people may have all their teeth, as well. However, I agree they picked people who would potentially fit what they are implying about antis. It is a smear campaign because they are trying to get the bill passed.





Whatever. Those two people almost certainly have votes. How many of the marchers last spring did?
Reply:They want to put a face on those of us that are not for amnesty, in the worst possible light. If fifty per cent of Hispanics in Californian are high school drop outs, why do they always showcase the one that can't go to college because they can't financial aid. Why didn't they go and speak to the gang bangers and asked them how grateful they are with the likes of Kyl, Ted, and Graham, that worked so hard to make sure they too were included in the amnesty
Reply:Good point! Good to read your post.
Reply:Saw the article; winced a bit like you. What it showed is Joe Blow from Middle America is against the Bill. Well in addition to Joe Blow--so is Muffy %26amp; Biff Wellington III from Martha's Vineyard............so is Jose Gonzalez who got here legally, paid his dues, followed the rules and is a proud Hispanic American for doing so........I'd like to have see Muffy, Biff and Jose represented in the article in addition to Joe.





THis is an issue that has united Americans at the grassroots level.....and the article missed showing that union.
Reply:Jayson Blair is back on the payroll. They are probably offering Dan Rather tens of millions for his integrity skills too.
Reply:Yeah, it's just another hit at White America, we are all just tweakers and rednecks and bikers who are all in the Klan. Oh well, maybe I should send some pictures of all the laundromats, buses, and welfare lines here in Redwood City, Ca. that are full of your everyday average dirty rotten filthy illegal immigrants clucking like chickens with their heads cut off and taking everything. There you go NY Times...is that stereotypical enough of the illegal immigrants???
Reply:I dont care. I dont need the NY Times to let me know whos against the immigration bill or what they look like. And neither does anyone else.





And I think people are making way too big a deal out of this. What is this obsession with the NY Times anyway? I see O'Reilly bitchin about it constantly and making stupid jokes about the people who work there. Liberal bias? OK...And? You going to pretend theres absolutely no media outlet out there with a conservative bias? Please.





People have to realize that no media outlet has a real bias, in that they have an agenda theyre trying to push. Its just not true. Every single one of the major news channels are nothing more than ratings-whores. They show their target audience what the audience wants to see. If the audience wants to see the GOP with sunlight shining out of its ***, theyll watch Fox. If they want to want to hear pompous left-leaning idealistic monologues, theyll watch Olbermann on MSNBC. That way the channels and shows all have reliable audience statistics to show off to the companies thinking about advertising on said channels. All about money, not ideology.
Reply:Ordinarily, my knee-jerk reaction to any "the media are evil" sort of observation is to shake my head in derision. In this case, however, I think you have a good point.





Had the New York Times actually assigned a reporter who wanted to research this article, he or she would have come up with quite a broad cross-section of anti-illegal amnesty citizens. Unfortunately, the reporter -- and her editors -- chose to insult proponents of immigration law enforcement.





(By the way: I like to watch Keith Olbermann. He's smart,and even though I don't always agree with him, I do enjoy watching people who actually think before they speak.)
Reply:I'm convinced that they will try to get this bill through including the legalizing of criminals and self-avowed gangbangers no matter what. They will smear, lie and spin this endlessly. That's what politicians do now.





That said: Congress and the President have thrown the first punch on this issue, and as I have said before, they will either bend to the will of the people or BY GOD we WILL throw the last punch at the polls and vote their sorry butts out to the street.
Reply:I think you're completely correct about the picture of the toothless guy with the American flag being used by the paper to create an image of rednecks (read uneducated people) being behind the movement. As far as the paper is concerned, if they weren't uneducated, they'd be delighted at the prospect of having a large, liberal-voting permanent underclass guaranteeing Democratic administations and congresses for as far as the eye can see.
Reply:I think the man's long beard is what threw you off.These people seem like normal working middle-class people to me.The car in their driveway isn't a Jed Clampett-mobile.And the man with missing teeth doesn't look that bad,he just needs some dental work.His house isn't ugly or anything.Despite your opinion that they look like rednecks,I'm sure they are affected by illegal immigration just like the rest of us are.
Reply:"Rednecks" as you call them have every right to use their voice to stand up against this bill after all they are directly affected also. You might want to overlook the package and hear the message.





Yes the NY Times may have purposely picked "rednecks" or someone that you do not find physically appealing but does that mean that you should demean their (the "rednecks") efforts to stop a bill that they see as harmful to the American public (you).





I have all my teeth and am very much against the bill also, but I do not lessen the opinions or the contributions of those we may not feel represent our vision of ourselves, such as those in the picture.





Just because the NY Times drops down to a dirty level does not mean that we have to.
Reply:I think they picked someone they considered grass roots because the average and lower income Americans are the ones who will suffer the most from giving these people immediate legalization. These will be the largest groups competing for the same jobs.





People from corporate America are the ones who would most likely want an amnesty type bill. If the current law is enforced, businesses will not be able to hire illegals. With the new law, they would get all the cheap labor they want legally. That is why the current bill isn't enforced. Bush does nothing for the average American citizen. I believe he has disdain for us.
Reply:I had not seen it, but I have now.. the content of the article should be what is important, but I guess only beautiful people can have an opinion? They look pretty normal to me I don't think a picture has anything to do with whether are the best or worst representatives.
Reply:because it's ignorant stupid non-educated evangelical so-called "Christians" racist people like the ones they featured who are dumb enough to not realize that there needs to be a practical solution. Saying "no amnesty" completely misses the point. Check out the USA Today editoral on this. We are ALL immigrants. Immigrants BUILT and BUILD America! I say "Welcome"! There's room for everyone. Everyone needs to quit their racist whining and deal with it. These are good, hard-working people folks, who want the same things we do - who can blame them for wanting a better life for their family? None of us "own" the USA. I'm not into god and all, but really, if you are - it's his land, now isn't it? It's not ours to keep people out.
Reply:The NY Times is a left wing rag, it has no credibility with normal clear thinking people on the left and the right, they are so biased in their reporting it's beyond belief and they will do anything they can to obstruct the law of the land, someone says it's not amnesty, then what is it ? ? they complain that these law breakers will have to pay a large amount of money to go through the process, tough, they paid a lot of money to the coyotes that brought them here in the first place. Come here LEGALLY and WELCOME ! ! ! otherwise pack up and go back where you came from.
Reply:The times is a liberal rag, like most newspapers, of course they won't provide a balanced view.



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